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    Going to be a lot of happy Scottish people tomorrow and at the same time a lot of unhappy ones.

  • #2
    Aren't Scottish people always miserable?
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    • #3
      We have to be. It's tradition

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      • #4
        Whatever happens, it'll be te Eglish's fault.
        Originally posted by Dave
        Originally posted by Stephen Fry
        [B]"It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more... than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so ****ing what."

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        • #5
          Despite all that's going on up here i've not heard any anti English stuff at all yet.
          Just Anti Westminster from the Yes group and Anti right wing government (but pro union) from the No lot.

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          • #6
            Everythings the English's fault

            If there was a labour government in, do you think the the yes side would have as much chance?
            Originally posted by Dave
            Originally posted by Stephen Fry
            [B]"It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more... than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so ****ing what."

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            • #7
              There's no doubt in my mind if Labour were still in power there would be a lot less momentum from the Yes group.

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              • #8
                Just interesting as Labour seem to occupy the right more than the left now with their policies, yet the SNP are fully left wing.

                With out your vote though we are more likely to be stuck with the bloody tories.
                Originally posted by Dave
                Originally posted by Stephen Fry
                [B]"It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more... than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so ****ing what."

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                • #9
                  Do You think they'll do alright if they do become independent?
                  Originally posted by Vegas
                  When I hit boost me fuel runs out

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                  • #10
                    Depends who you mean by "they". If it refers to the Scots then the answer is no. If it refers to the rest of the UK then the answer is also no. (Due to the fact that it will give the Tories an unchallenged majority which won't work well for anyone, north or south of the border.)

                    If the vote is yes then those in favour of independence north of the border will be very happy - over the weekend. I suspect they'll be less happy come Monday morning when an awful lot of money starts southwards.
                    1972 Viva restoration thread - http://www.thecorsa.co.uk/projects-b....html#post1534

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                    • #11
                      In the long run I think they will. However the first 10-15 years I think will be rough.

                      The loss of trident, although they say they don't want it, will cause huge problems in the area. The civilian jobs on the camps will obviously be affected but also the infrastructure which supports all the troops (supermarkets, pubs, shops, etc). The area will be face a huge spike in unemployment and people will either need to move or face a lifetime of benefits.

                      I could also seem some businesses leaving, mainly financial ones as they will move to the financial capital (London).

                      However if they create their own currency (joining the pound or Euro would be a mistake IMO) they will be able to devalue their currency to enable themselves to compete on exports. Although they will likely pay higher costs to borrow. Obviously their biggest export will be oil, however they also have other exports they to enable them to compete on the global scale (Whiskey, shortbread, monster teddies and skirts for men-couldn't resist ).

                      By becoming independent they have the chance to not have to rely on London for the countries income (which we all do at the moment), this means they can invest in manufactoring and other industrial industries.

                      I honestly would like the North East to leave with Scotland, it could kick start and bring jobs to the full region.

                      This could all be done with out them leaving and the full country becoming better, however this is unlikely to happen with a Tory government or even a red Tory government.

                      Just to reiterate, this would take 10-15+ years. This isnt an overnight thing and the first 5-10 years is likely to be very hard. A sharp increase in unemployment, businesses moving out of the country, a drop in tax take and an increase spending. Probably meaning a lower quality of life for large areas.
                      Originally posted by Dave
                      Originally posted by Stephen Fry
                      [B]"It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more... than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so ****ing what."

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                      • #12
                        Thanks for that, I've not paid enough attention to it. And i've been dubious of how valid some of the points are from both sides.
                        Originally posted by Vegas
                        When I hit boost me fuel runs out

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                        • #13
                          A lot of it has been mis-truths or plain lies. Both sides are guilty of this.
                          Originally posted by Dave
                          Originally posted by Stephen Fry
                          [B]"It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more... than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so ****ing what."

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                          • #14
                            Westminster have went about it all wrong with their campaigning for better together.
                            It's all been based on fear mongering and negativity. There's been little said about the benefits for Scotland if they stay and almost all of it has been about what bad things might / will happen.

                            Yes campaigning has been done in a more positive way for the most part. What good things will come from Scotland leaving and minimal on what bad things will happen staying in the Union

                            It's hard to gauge what way it'll go. Yes voters are a lot more vocal. Yes flags, banners, posters everywhere and people filling the streets in all the major cities so on the surface it looks like a landslide for yes here but the no voters are a lot less vocal and a lot of polls are still showing an approx 50/50

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