EU, The MOT & Future Changes

[Hardcore]

Nothing set in stone yet but some of the proposals being looked at for MOT's in the future.

How the EU Roadworthiness Package affects the MOT – Matters of Testing

OBD testing will be the same as Germany. If they connect to your car and see the software is different from standard (EGR delete, remap etc) then it will be a fail
That and a lot of other changes coming in 2018 look to limit the amount / type of modifications people are going to be able to do.

Although we hear stuff like this now and then in newspapers this is the first i've seen on a government site after hearing a lot of rumours from people who work in / with VOSA

[Tim]

That merely says the OBD port could be used for emission, how this would work someone cleverer than me could explain?

[Hardcore]

The current wording of Euro emissions stuff that's in the UK as well but hard to enforce says something like
"if a vehicle has been modified in such a way it no longer meets the emissions standards that were set when it was first produced it is illegal"
Not the actual quote but very similar.

That's why previously a de-cat or remap was never a problem as long as it still passed the basic MOT emissions test.
Now since Euro 5 and 6 regulations came out they made a decat or DPF removal a fail even if it still passes the emissions test.
So people have been cutting them open to gut them

OBD checks from the proposals i've heard will be the same as what they do in germany. It's used to check the DPF is present as they can analyze the readings live, and the same with EGR deletes and remaps.
In Germany all of these things are a fail and being part of Europe the Union want to roll it out everywhere

[CorsaEdi]

They will do anything to **** over car enthusiasts

[hoppydan]

one more reason to be out of Europe?

[IainW]

one more reason to be out of Europe?

This!

[IainW]

The use of tailpipe or OBD for emission inspections under certain conditions for Euro 5 or 6 engines. Euro 5 tailpipe or conditional OBD (On Board Diagnostics), Euro 6 free choice between tailpipe or OBD

Looks to me like this may not include older vehicles? I've no idea how it works in Germany though

[Hardcore]

That's right. Older cars "shouln't" be affected by it but more modern cars will eventually fall foul later on.
If this is all in the pipeline and lots of work is going towards making it happen just now i wonder if they'll still want to complete all of this if / when we pull out of the EU

[Dave]

Run 2 ECU'S. Job done.

[Vegas]

Yup^ that's what everybody will do.


If it happens, there will be ways around it. Always is.

If there isn't everybody will use old cars, and country will be taking less money in again

[Rocksta]

I wondered how long until this was posted.
I saw this a few months ago but it is very unclear at the moment

[Dave]

I doubt it will come into force anywhere as near as the Internet or hardcore can exaggerate it now tbh. Hardcore does like a good dramatic news story I feel.

[Hardcore]

Dave's right. I enjoy drama.
Hopefully he's right and the proposals don't go ahead.

[dannyboy]

Drama lama lol

[Hardcore]

The proposals above seem to fall in line with the UK being fined by the EU (vivid memories here) for not meeting targets for reducing pollution.
There seems to be more focus on the Euro 5 and 6 emission class vehicles in the link above and i seen other suggestions that in central London they were going to try and regulate it so only Euro 5 or 6 emission class private vehicles could drive there.

These are all just proposals at the end of the day though.